1 00:00:04,340 --> 00:00:02,540 hey guys Ryan sprek here as you all know 2 00:00:07,070 --> 00:00:04,350 this somewhere in the skies podcast is 3 00:00:09,620 --> 00:00:07,080 always free to consume but it isn't free 4 00:00:11,540 --> 00:00:09,630 to create that's why I've started this 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:11,550 somewhere in the skies patreon campaign 6 00:00:16,099 --> 00:00:14,370 on a monthly basis you give what you 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:16,109 think the show is worth you'll be 8 00:00:21,439 --> 00:00:18,930 helping the show continue grow and to be 9 00:00:23,630 --> 00:00:21,449 something truly communal and remember 10 00:00:25,730 --> 00:00:23,640 there are rewards for each level of 11 00:00:28,250 --> 00:00:25,740 contribution and the list is only 12 00:00:30,620 --> 00:00:28,260 growing so please help somewhere in the 13 00:00:37,930 --> 00:00:30,630 skies now by becoming a patron to 14 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:40,470 www.suprememastertv.com/heartline 15 00:00:47,140 --> 00:01:09,220 [Music] 16 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:15,010 I have the master of ceremonies my good 17 00:01:19,770 --> 00:01:18,050 friend my colleague Alejandro Rojas here 18 00:01:22,750 --> 00:01:19,780 to talk about the 27th annual 19 00:01:25,030 --> 00:01:22,760 international UFO Congress and film 20 00:01:27,130 --> 00:01:25,040 festival which runs February 14th 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:27,140 through the 18th at the weekapaug Resort 22 00:01:29,950 --> 00:01:29,210 and Conference Center in Scottsdale 23 00:01:31,990 --> 00:01:29,960 Arizona 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Alejandro thank you so much for coming 25 00:01:36,310 --> 00:01:33,890 here today my man oh I'm happy to be 26 00:01:40,090 --> 00:01:36,320 here always a pleasure to to talk to you 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:40,100 Betty always I mean last year was my 28 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:43,370 first ever public speaking event on UFOs 29 00:01:48,610 --> 00:01:46,130 and that was at your Congress I mean 30 00:01:50,740 --> 00:01:48,620 talk about like trial by fire man I'd 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:50,750 never done it before and I went up there 32 00:01:54,970 --> 00:01:53,210 in front of all those amazing people 33 00:01:58,990 --> 00:01:54,980 that you guys have come every year it 34 00:02:00,990 --> 00:01:59,000 was a blast it was so much fun and not 35 00:02:03,190 --> 00:02:01,000 many people know this but I also 36 00:02:05,710 --> 00:02:03,200 volunteered for many years before that 37 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:05,720 because I just loved the work you guys 38 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:07,490 do and I loved coming out there every 39 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:10,399 year from New York City so this is the 40 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:12,650 conference of all conferences it brings 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:14,510 people from all over the world 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:17,570 so before I blabber about it and fawn 43 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:18,170 over it 44 00:02:22,570 --> 00:02:20,330 why don't you baby tell some of our 45 00:02:25,449 --> 00:02:22,580 listeners what exactly the UFO Congress 46 00:02:27,490 --> 00:02:25,459 is all right well it's the largest UFO 47 00:02:29,590 --> 00:02:27,500 conference it's in fact we have the 48 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:29,600 Guinness world record for it there are 49 00:02:33,699 --> 00:02:31,430 some others that are kind of more alien 50 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:33,709 based that are getting pretty big alien 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:35,690 calm like that one's big for ancient 52 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:38,570 aliens but we focus on much more in fact 53 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:40,310 ancient aliens people a lot of them will 54 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:42,290 say I'm not a UFO researcher I'm into 55 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:43,010 something else 56 00:02:49,090 --> 00:02:45,730 so that's what it is we we feature 57 00:02:50,830 --> 00:02:49,100 investigators researchers for the most 58 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:50,840 part so people that are actually doing 59 00:02:55,510 --> 00:02:53,570 something out there like yourself so I 60 00:02:58,660 --> 00:02:55,520 mean I was I thought you did excellent 61 00:03:00,280 --> 00:02:58,670 it was great to have you there and I 62 00:03:02,710 --> 00:03:00,290 knew you would do a good job sometimes 63 00:03:05,140 --> 00:03:02,720 you're rolling the dice with some people 64 00:03:06,970 --> 00:03:05,150 but I think you did better even than I 65 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:06,980 expected I was laughing it was a lot of 66 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:09,170 fun oh well thank you I'm laughing at 67 00:03:13,810 --> 00:03:11,510 you at me with me I appreciate you 68 00:03:15,729 --> 00:03:13,820 making that uh that right there yeah 69 00:03:18,430 --> 00:03:15,739 there's a big difference for sure but 70 00:03:21,099 --> 00:03:18,440 the crowd was so welcoming and you guys 71 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:21,109 you know how to treat your speakers and 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:22,510 your guests and 73 00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:24,970 just such a professional conference from 74 00:03:28,830 --> 00:03:26,799 from the minute you get there to the 75 00:03:32,190 --> 00:03:28,840 minute you leave it's just an enjoyable 76 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:32,200 experience and you learn something which 77 00:03:36,330 --> 00:03:34,450 is the most important part everyone can 78 00:03:38,130 --> 00:03:36,340 learn something of it from something 79 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:38,140 like this because you bring speakers 80 00:03:43,470 --> 00:03:40,810 about all different types of topics 81 00:03:46,559 --> 00:03:43,480 whether they're scientists or academics 82 00:03:49,020 --> 00:03:46,569 or researchers whether it's the alien 83 00:03:51,270 --> 00:03:49,030 abduction phenomenon UFO space and 84 00:03:53,699 --> 00:03:51,280 Technology it brings all these people 85 00:03:56,729 --> 00:03:53,709 together who have a passion for these 86 00:03:59,789 --> 00:03:56,739 topics and just want to dash it out you 87 00:04:01,800 --> 00:03:59,799 know have conversations and you guys do 88 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:01,810 a wonderful job too with having panel 89 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:04,090 discussions it doesn't just end with 90 00:04:09,839 --> 00:04:06,250 someone telling you what to think it's 91 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:09,849 let's ask questions let's debate which I 92 00:04:14,460 --> 00:04:12,340 think is very important as well and have 93 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:14,470 a good time while we're doing it so um I 94 00:04:18,390 --> 00:04:16,930 will definitely I can tell you this 95 00:04:20,610 --> 00:04:18,400 right now that now that I live in Los 96 00:04:22,830 --> 00:04:20,620 Angeles I'm hoping to get out there for 97 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:22,840 at least a couple days this year so 98 00:04:27,089 --> 00:04:25,210 that'll be really exciting you know I'll 99 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:27,099 be back on the other side now in the 100 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:28,750 audience so that'll be great 101 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:31,690 but yeah before we go any further let's 102 00:04:35,610 --> 00:04:33,849 let's maybe go through some of the 103 00:04:37,710 --> 00:04:35,620 lineup you can have here I'm looking at 104 00:04:40,050 --> 00:04:37,720 the guest list and it is pretty 105 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:40,060 jam-packed my man with some really 106 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:42,970 amazing people let's see who do we got 107 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:45,330 we've got Linda Moulton Howe is coming 108 00:04:50,450 --> 00:04:48,150 she's gonna be talking about military 109 00:04:52,589 --> 00:04:50,460 whistleblowers that's pretty interesting 110 00:04:55,529 --> 00:04:52,599 how long has it been since she last 111 00:04:58,439 --> 00:04:55,539 spoke it's been a few years I think it's 112 00:05:00,420 --> 00:04:58,449 been maybe I actually I think she was at 113 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:00,430 the first one we brought here 2011 and 114 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:01,870 that was probably the last time she's 115 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:04,449 spoken at the Congress so it'll be 116 00:05:08,490 --> 00:05:06,550 interesting to hear her again I just 117 00:05:11,219 --> 00:05:08,500 heard her I've been to a couple places 118 00:05:13,439 --> 00:05:11,229 where she's been for instance I think I 119 00:05:17,189 --> 00:05:13,449 was at a MUFON symposium before and then 120 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:17,199 in Roswell last year so yeah people love 121 00:05:21,420 --> 00:05:18,610 to hear from her she's been doing this 122 00:05:23,250 --> 00:05:21,430 for a long time so and it's kind of 123 00:05:25,409 --> 00:05:23,260 interesting that she's speaking of 124 00:05:27,210 --> 00:05:25,419 whistleblowers considering you know 125 00:05:29,879 --> 00:05:27,220 what's going on this year and everything 126 00:05:32,670 --> 00:05:29,889 but so we'll see what happens there 127 00:05:34,890 --> 00:05:32,680 absolutely I look forward to that I mean 128 00:05:36,090 --> 00:05:34,900 she's one of the you know no matter what 129 00:05:37,970 --> 00:05:36,100 you think of Linda 130 00:05:40,250 --> 00:05:37,980 she's one of the most hardest working 131 00:05:43,140 --> 00:05:40,260 journalists investigators out there 132 00:05:45,570 --> 00:05:43,150 another one that really hit close to 133 00:05:48,270 --> 00:05:45,580 home for me was Cheryl Costa from 134 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:48,280 Syracuse New York my hometown my 135 00:05:53,940 --> 00:05:50,890 newspaper that I grew up reading 136 00:05:56,280 --> 00:05:53,950 she works for them and she has a UFO 137 00:05:58,500 --> 00:05:56,290 section on their website which is 138 00:06:01,440 --> 00:05:58,510 incredible for those who don't know she 139 00:06:04,290 --> 00:06:01,450 wrote an extremely extensive book this 140 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:04,300 past year that you know blew up was all 141 00:06:08,250 --> 00:06:06,490 over the media you know yes we had a 142 00:06:10,770 --> 00:06:08,260 recent New York Times article about UFOs 143 00:06:12,990 --> 00:06:10,780 but Cheryl had one earlier this year as 144 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:13,000 well so I was really happy to see that 145 00:06:17,670 --> 00:06:15,850 she'll be there too yeah I think what 146 00:06:20,370 --> 00:06:17,680 she did was pretty extraordinary I mean 147 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:20,380 the book was a huge effort I interviewed 148 00:06:24,030 --> 00:06:22,210 her I'm sure you did for the last couple 149 00:06:27,090 --> 00:06:24,040 years as she's been working on it and 150 00:06:30,420 --> 00:06:27,100 it's taken a long time to compile all of 151 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:30,430 that information together but once the 152 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:32,650 book came out the other side of things 153 00:06:36,990 --> 00:06:34,510 the other thing that she did that was 154 00:06:38,790 --> 00:06:37,000 really important I think extraordinary 155 00:06:41,130 --> 00:06:38,800 that she needs to get a lot of credit 156 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:41,140 for it she went out there and marketed 157 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:44,110 her book and she did what we all should 158 00:06:48,810 --> 00:06:46,450 be doing with her with information is 159 00:06:51,390 --> 00:06:48,820 first of all what she has is credible 160 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:51,400 but getting out there and talking to 161 00:06:56,610 --> 00:06:53,530 those media outlets making them 162 00:07:00,060 --> 00:06:56,620 understand why this is important and 163 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:00,070 then luckily she had success and New 164 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:03,430 York Times and many many you know I put 165 00:07:08,820 --> 00:07:05,170 up these headlines practically every day 166 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:08,830 of UFO stories in the news and all over 167 00:07:14,220 --> 00:07:11,530 the country even in some other countries 168 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:14,230 there were stories about her book and 169 00:07:18,690 --> 00:07:16,300 one of the reasons why is they can open 170 00:07:21,270 --> 00:07:18,700 it up and look at it and say okay Mesa 171 00:07:23,730 --> 00:07:21,280 Arizona what sightings were out here and 172 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:23,740 they can find that out so it's a great 173 00:07:29,940 --> 00:07:26,980 hand book it inspired a lot of very 174 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:29,950 credible discussion around the country 175 00:07:35,130 --> 00:07:33,010 about this topic you know prior to that 176 00:07:38,130 --> 00:07:35,140 to the New York Times recent article and 177 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:38,140 so she did something very important I 178 00:07:41,850 --> 00:07:39,970 think and I'm really proud of her and 179 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:41,860 it's gonna be fun to have her back and 180 00:07:47,010 --> 00:07:43,930 talk about that experience absolutely 181 00:07:48,900 --> 00:07:47,020 she is a very passionate journalist and 182 00:07:49,740 --> 00:07:48,910 speaker I actually met her for the first 183 00:07:52,380 --> 00:07:49,750 time 184 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:52,390 at your conference when she was speaking 185 00:07:56,310 --> 00:07:54,490 and I had no idea she was from my 186 00:07:58,260 --> 00:07:56,320 hometown so I mean we're like best 187 00:08:01,770 --> 00:07:58,270 friends now she goes to my parents house 188 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:01,780 to have like coffee and tea it's amazing 189 00:08:06,090 --> 00:08:03,970 and talk to you of foes something my 190 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:06,100 parents never had a keen interest in and 191 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:08,110 now they're in man they are all waiting 192 00:08:14,370 --> 00:08:10,660 so Wow we've got some converts over at 193 00:08:16,470 --> 00:08:14,380 the spreg household for sure so another 194 00:08:19,530 --> 00:08:16,480 really interesting thing you got going 195 00:08:22,380 --> 00:08:19,540 on this year is the the Travis Walton 196 00:08:25,590 --> 00:08:22,390 panel now we've got Don Walton and Chuck 197 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:25,600 Ellison two members of this case that 198 00:08:29,909 --> 00:08:28,090 really haven't spoken that much about it 199 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:29,919 publicly so could you tell us a little 200 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:31,300 about what to expect with this one 201 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:33,490 alejandro yeah this one's really 202 00:08:37,709 --> 00:08:36,010 exciting we're gonna have you know it'll 203 00:08:39,390 --> 00:08:37,719 be kind of like a panel but they each 204 00:08:42,420 --> 00:08:39,400 get a share their experiences because 205 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:42,430 they both had an important part of this 206 00:08:46,890 --> 00:08:45,010 case so Travis is one person we have 207 00:08:48,420 --> 00:08:46,900 back almost every year which is rare 208 00:08:50,790 --> 00:08:48,430 because we usually like to wait every 209 00:08:53,070 --> 00:08:50,800 three years or so before we have someone 210 00:08:55,560 --> 00:08:53,080 back which forces us to have fresh new 211 00:08:57,329 --> 00:08:55,570 speakers all of the time however these 212 00:08:59,880 --> 00:08:57,339 people related like you said have not 213 00:09:02,370 --> 00:08:59,890 spoken really they've only spoken once 214 00:09:05,220 --> 00:09:02,380 before so Karen the owner of the 215 00:09:07,410 --> 00:09:05,230 Congress she ran a conference for Travis 216 00:09:09,810 --> 00:09:07,420 40th anniversary confidence and she did 217 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:09,820 a lot of work to find people who had 218 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:11,890 never spoken before it hadn't been out 219 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:15,370 about this there's a current and she 220 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:17,170 found a lot of people and the two that 221 00:09:22,020 --> 00:09:20,170 she was able to get to come and talk who 222 00:09:24,690 --> 00:09:22,030 hadn't spoken before was Chuck Ellison 223 00:09:27,630 --> 00:09:24,700 and Don Walton Don Walton of course is 224 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:27,640 Travis's brother he shared incredible 225 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:29,650 experiences of what their family went 226 00:09:34,350 --> 00:09:31,839 through even having to almost get in a 227 00:09:37,470 --> 00:09:34,360 fight with reporters and stuff like this 228 00:09:39,450 --> 00:09:37,480 so very cool stuff to share and Chuck 229 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:39,460 Ellison was amazing he was the police 230 00:09:43,470 --> 00:09:41,650 officer who was first on the scene so 231 00:09:45,300 --> 00:09:43,480 when those guys couldn't find Travis and 232 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:45,310 they're freaking out they called the 233 00:09:49,290 --> 00:09:47,050 police and the police said okay meets 234 00:09:51,420 --> 00:09:49,300 one of our officers in this parking lot 235 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:51,430 and the person they met was Chuck 236 00:09:56,850 --> 00:09:54,130 Ellison and none of these guys had seen 237 00:09:59,400 --> 00:09:56,860 Chuck Ellison for forty years since the 238 00:10:01,500 --> 00:09:59,410 event occurred they were for the first 239 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:01,510 time met him at the conference and 240 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:03,250 Travis had never met 241 00:10:10,980 --> 00:10:08,050 because you know he wasn't there so they 242 00:10:13,530 --> 00:10:10,990 had no idea what he was gonna say and I 243 00:10:15,210 --> 00:10:13,540 to me this adds to the credibility they 244 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:15,220 didn't care I mean they didn't they 245 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:18,160 weren't worried or afraid of what he 246 00:10:23,670 --> 00:10:20,890 would have to say and what he had to say 247 00:10:25,710 --> 00:10:23,680 was was incredible the Q&A the way he 248 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:25,720 answered the questions if you're a 249 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:28,930 subscriber to the UFO Congress video 250 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:31,120 portal or if you came to that conference 251 00:10:36,270 --> 00:10:33,700 then you will have seen how incredible a 252 00:10:38,580 --> 00:10:36,280 moment it was so to have him back and to 253 00:10:41,370 --> 00:10:38,590 share this with this audience a bigger 254 00:10:43,050 --> 00:10:41,380 audience is really cool so yeah I think 255 00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:43,060 this is only the second time these guys 256 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:45,430 have gone on stage to talk to audiences 257 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:48,010 about this and they're in for a treat 258 00:10:50,490 --> 00:10:49,960 that's for sure cuz it's really good 259 00:10:53,460 --> 00:10:50,500 stuff 260 00:10:57,060 --> 00:10:53,470 absolutely and like you said I mean the 261 00:10:59,370 --> 00:10:57,070 guy hasn't talked about this in what 40 262 00:11:01,470 --> 00:10:59,380 years like you said that that's it's 263 00:11:04,020 --> 00:11:01,480 amazing that there has to be a reason 264 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:04,030 that he is publicly speaking at UFO 265 00:11:09,150 --> 00:11:06,880 conferences now he must firmly believe 266 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:09,160 that what happened to Travis happened 267 00:11:14,550 --> 00:11:11,410 and that there is something to this this 268 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:14,560 wasn't this cover-up of a possible 269 00:11:19,950 --> 00:11:17,530 murder of Travis as many claimed back 270 00:11:21,630 --> 00:11:19,960 when it happened so I'm interested to 271 00:11:23,700 --> 00:11:21,640 hear what that what comes of that for 272 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:23,710 sure well what was cool about last time 273 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:26,770 also when when he did this is a lot of 274 00:11:30,150 --> 00:11:28,210 people have questions why did the police 275 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:30,160 do this why did the police do that and 276 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:32,770 he's able to answer the questions and 277 00:11:37,410 --> 00:11:35,110 and it makes sense and there are great 278 00:11:39,180 --> 00:11:37,420 questions that people ask that and that 279 00:11:41,579 --> 00:11:39,190 you know as someone not in law 280 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:41,589 enforcement we wouldn't understand so I 281 00:11:45,510 --> 00:11:43,480 think that the our audience will do the 282 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:45,520 same ask some great questions and Chuck 283 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:47,890 will give some great answers so this is 284 00:11:51,690 --> 00:11:48,520 gonna be great 285 00:11:54,270 --> 00:11:51,700 I'm so excited about this absolutely and 286 00:11:56,610 --> 00:11:54,280 what I what I think is really cool this 287 00:12:00,350 --> 00:11:56,620 year Alejandro is a lot of people always 288 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:00,360 think that the UFO field is wrought with 289 00:12:06,810 --> 00:12:03,130 let's just let's be honest it's a boys 290 00:12:08,610 --> 00:12:06,820 club but I was really excited to see the 291 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:08,620 list of female speakers you have this 292 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:10,810 year I mean you've got Yvonne Smith 293 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:13,450 Jennifer Stein Alice truffle the 294 00:12:19,210 --> 00:12:16,610 daughter of and ruffle in my correct 295 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:19,220 that is correct you know and I you know 296 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:21,890 I've always strived to do this to bring 297 00:12:28,060 --> 00:12:25,910 make sure there that some cognizant of 298 00:12:29,829 --> 00:12:28,070 the issue of that there are too many men 299 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:29,839 that speaker most of these conferences 300 00:12:35,889 --> 00:12:32,510 and so I do my best 301 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:35,899 but Karen having Karen involved now she 302 00:12:40,449 --> 00:12:38,690 can do better than I can and there is a 303 00:12:43,380 --> 00:12:40,459 different perspective you know there is 304 00:12:47,620 --> 00:12:43,390 a different set of interests I think 305 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:47,630 between the sexes the genders and so we 306 00:12:52,420 --> 00:12:49,910 do have a larger representation and I 307 00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:52,430 think as long as Karen's involved we 308 00:12:56,590 --> 00:12:54,920 will have that and so that is a positive 309 00:12:59,519 --> 00:12:56,600 because I think there has to be that 310 00:13:03,040 --> 00:12:59,529 balance so yeah we have a lot more 311 00:13:05,290 --> 00:13:03,050 female speakers yeah Nancy you have 312 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:05,300 Nancy you have Susan J Palmer which is 313 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:07,310 what I'm really really looking forward 314 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:09,410 to no I know last year you spoke about 315 00:13:15,220 --> 00:13:13,010 aliens and religion and this seems like 316 00:13:18,220 --> 00:13:15,230 a really cool one she's gonna be talking 317 00:13:21,220 --> 00:13:18,230 about the contactee movement and cults 318 00:13:23,230 --> 00:13:21,230 the case of rail profits of UFO 319 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:23,240 religions this is a sociological 320 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:25,490 perspective of the alien phenomenon that 321 00:13:30,370 --> 00:13:28,010 not many people are familiar with so 322 00:13:32,889 --> 00:13:30,380 this is one I'm really looking forward 323 00:13:34,060 --> 00:13:32,899 to hearing hopefully in person again 324 00:13:36,519 --> 00:13:34,070 fingers crossed 325 00:13:40,180 --> 00:13:36,529 yeah are you excited about this one as 326 00:13:41,740 --> 00:13:40,190 well having spoken about yeah I you know 327 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:41,750 my talk was about religion you're right 328 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:45,649 and then and so she speaks on UFO 329 00:13:51,639 --> 00:13:49,490 religions and she had seen my talk and 330 00:13:53,530 --> 00:13:51,649 she had sent me a note and said I think 331 00:13:55,569 --> 00:13:53,540 you would think you know this stuff I'm 332 00:13:57,790 --> 00:13:55,579 working on is really interesting and so 333 00:13:59,650 --> 00:13:57,800 I brought her on the podcast and she was 334 00:14:02,439 --> 00:13:59,660 really interesting because even though 335 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:02,449 she she literally embedded herself with 336 00:14:07,990 --> 00:14:04,490 the Railly and she joined to their group 337 00:14:10,060 --> 00:14:08,000 and got to know them and she also 338 00:14:13,300 --> 00:14:10,070 uncovered other interesting 339 00:14:15,370 --> 00:14:13,310 organizations based on UFOs or aliens 340 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:15,380 and I think that's really important to 341 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:17,510 look at the sociological aspect and I 342 00:14:23,829 --> 00:14:19,910 think people will be surprised she is an 343 00:14:26,769 --> 00:14:23,839 academic she's a professor in Canada but 344 00:14:28,569 --> 00:14:26,779 she isn't going to just poopoo or be 345 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:28,579 negative she's actually a very positive 346 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:30,170 person and she 347 00:14:34,990 --> 00:14:33,110 likes to try to understand people and I 348 00:14:37,690 --> 00:14:35,000 think that what she's gonna share is 349 00:14:39,610 --> 00:14:37,700 gonna be very interesting I find her 350 00:14:41,230 --> 00:14:39,620 work really interesting so I hope people 351 00:14:43,780 --> 00:14:41,240 really like it I think they will I think 352 00:14:45,850 --> 00:14:43,790 so to you it's definitely like a portion 353 00:14:48,579 --> 00:14:45,860 a subset of the topic that you don't 354 00:14:50,829 --> 00:14:48,589 hear about often so that's really cool 355 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:50,839 you have Michael Carter who's going to 356 00:14:54,129 --> 00:14:52,250 be talking about the spiritual 357 00:14:56,620 --> 00:14:54,139 transformation of the experiencer 358 00:14:58,389 --> 00:14:56,630 Michael was a big part of my book was a 359 00:15:01,449 --> 00:14:58,399 big part of my lecture last year at 360 00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:01,459 numerous so that's really cool I know he 361 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:03,560 sort of took a break from talking about 362 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:05,870 this for a while but he's back it looks 363 00:15:10,329 --> 00:15:08,690 like he's ready to bring some news new 364 00:15:12,490 --> 00:15:10,339 revelations about what he's learned 365 00:15:14,350 --> 00:15:12,500 that's really cool to see him on the 366 00:15:16,449 --> 00:15:14,360 list Michael Carter is interesting too 367 00:15:18,910 --> 00:15:16,459 yeah again it is kind of religion and 368 00:15:20,889 --> 00:15:18,920 ufology but he's more about the Bible 369 00:15:22,810 --> 00:15:20,899 and he is kind of more about ancient 370 00:15:26,139 --> 00:15:22,820 aliens that's why he's on the television 371 00:15:29,379 --> 00:15:26,149 show which is something that I don't 372 00:15:33,670 --> 00:15:29,389 have as strong of an interested in as 373 00:15:36,519 --> 00:15:33,680 many however even though we don't 374 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:36,529 necessarily share the common interests 375 00:15:42,819 --> 00:15:39,680 and on that respect there are many other 376 00:15:45,939 --> 00:15:42,829 things we do and he is just such an 377 00:15:49,090 --> 00:15:45,949 incredible person whenever I interview 378 00:15:50,380 --> 00:15:49,100 him I feel so I feel better I feel like 379 00:15:53,889 --> 00:15:50,390 a counseling session 380 00:15:56,290 --> 00:15:53,899 I just feel happy and positive and he is 381 00:15:59,170 --> 00:15:56,300 just an absolute wonderful person he's a 382 00:16:00,970 --> 00:15:59,180 great guy and so I think that the 383 00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:00,980 audience is gonna love him I have no 384 00:16:05,740 --> 00:16:03,769 doubt yeah he took a break and so we 385 00:16:07,449 --> 00:16:05,750 weren't able to get him I think it was 386 00:16:09,519 --> 00:16:07,459 last year the year before so as I've 387 00:16:11,139 --> 00:16:09,529 been trying to get him and so finally 388 00:16:12,550 --> 00:16:11,149 it's working out this year and I'm 389 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:12,560 really happy about that 390 00:16:17,290 --> 00:16:15,410 I'm just happy to have his energy at our 391 00:16:20,050 --> 00:16:17,300 conference because you know he's a 392 00:16:22,300 --> 00:16:20,060 positive force with a big smile all the 393 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:22,310 time and I know if I ever feel down I'm 394 00:16:26,170 --> 00:16:23,660 gonna be able to go talk to him and just 395 00:16:28,329 --> 00:16:26,180 feel great so yeah and the audience a 396 00:16:30,430 --> 00:16:28,339 lot of people have an interest in the 397 00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:30,440 ancient alien stuff and so they're you 398 00:16:35,019 --> 00:16:32,000 know David Hatcher Childress luckily 399 00:16:36,819 --> 00:16:35,029 lives nearby we have him a lot and he'll 400 00:16:39,579 --> 00:16:36,829 probably be passing by at the conference 401 00:16:41,290 --> 00:16:39,589 we get to luckily you know mingle in the 402 00:16:43,990 --> 00:16:41,300 same circle so we could hang out with 403 00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:44,000 him on occasion but Childress is always 404 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:46,190 very popular when he comes to the 405 00:16:50,500 --> 00:16:48,110 conference so this will be a lot of fun 406 00:16:52,510 --> 00:16:50,510 I'm so happy to have Michael absolutely 407 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:52,520 man and then I mean you got some 408 00:16:57,910 --> 00:16:55,610 veterans that you know never let us down 409 00:17:01,480 --> 00:16:57,920 you've got mr. bass it's gonna be there 410 00:17:02,530 --> 00:17:01,490 got uh William burns he got Don Schmidt 411 00:17:04,449 --> 00:17:02,540 that's awesome 412 00:17:06,699 --> 00:17:04,459 I can't we see what these guys have been 413 00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:06,709 up to you know Don's taking some heat we 414 00:17:09,850 --> 00:17:07,520 all know this 415 00:17:12,189 --> 00:17:09,860 yeah the past couple years so it's it's 416 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:12,199 refreshing to see him coming back with 417 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:14,000 something as interesting as talking 418 00:17:19,030 --> 00:17:16,850 about Jo Ann hi Nick did he know the 419 00:17:21,699 --> 00:17:19,040 truth about what he was investigating 420 00:17:23,439 --> 00:17:21,709 that's a question we've all had you know 421 00:17:26,050 --> 00:17:23,449 we had a wonderful book that came out 422 00:17:27,939 --> 00:17:26,060 about hi Nick this past year we've got 423 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:27,949 this new blue book television series 424 00:17:32,230 --> 00:17:29,690 premiering I think this is a perfect 425 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:32,240 time for what Don's doing I agree Hynek 426 00:17:36,460 --> 00:17:34,430 is a really important figure and one 427 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:36,470 that I always try to focus on and remind 428 00:17:40,090 --> 00:17:38,330 people that he existed because he was 429 00:17:42,580 --> 00:17:40,100 he's essentially pretty much the 430 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:42,590 grandfather of ufology at least civilian 431 00:17:48,790 --> 00:17:46,490 UFO research so he's very important many 432 00:17:50,890 --> 00:17:48,800 people don't know how close Don was that 433 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:50,900 Don worked for him he was an actual 434 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:53,510 investigator for him and so Don is the 435 00:17:57,250 --> 00:17:55,250 perfect person to talk about this a 436 00:18:00,280 --> 00:17:57,260 funny little side note is that Don 437 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:00,290 Schmidt was working with Heineken Koufos 438 00:18:05,260 --> 00:18:02,960 when the Roswell incident became popular 439 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:05,270 and he thought it was silly he thought 440 00:18:08,890 --> 00:18:07,490 they'd be able to go to Roswell for the 441 00:18:11,230 --> 00:18:08,900 weekend and debunk the whole thing 442 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:11,240 little did he know it would begin to 443 00:18:15,130 --> 00:18:13,610 encompass his life you know like it has 444 00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:15,140 now and that's what he's known for 445 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:18,080 so that ought to be great Bassitt of 446 00:18:23,730 --> 00:18:21,110 course is always so high energy and a 447 00:18:27,010 --> 00:18:23,740 lot of fun he's the biggest cheerleader 448 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:27,020 you know people get so excited and and 449 00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:30,290 they get so jazzed up it's almost like a 450 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:33,430 I would imagine like it is going to some 451 00:18:38,260 --> 00:18:35,990 evangelical church people just just so 452 00:18:39,820 --> 00:18:38,270 excited so of course that's gonna be 453 00:18:41,500 --> 00:18:39,830 great he's been gone he's been out of 454 00:18:43,780 --> 00:18:41,510 country for a while so it's gonna be 455 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:43,790 cool to hear what he has to say when he 456 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:46,250 gets back and who is the third person 457 00:18:50,910 --> 00:18:48,770 you mentioned that got Wilbur and Bill 458 00:18:53,770 --> 00:18:50,920 burns yeah bill burns rarely does 459 00:18:55,419 --> 00:18:53,780 conference appearances and you know 460 00:18:57,970 --> 00:18:55,429 luckily it's the importance of keeping 461 00:19:00,190 --> 00:18:57,980 open contact with people luckily I do 462 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:00,200 keep in contact with bill birnes I was 463 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:02,570 able to write a review or about his 464 00:19:06,430 --> 00:19:03,290 newest book 465 00:19:09,250 --> 00:19:06,440 Edison versus Tesla and the ghost phone 466 00:19:12,010 --> 00:19:09,260 type of thing they were working on on 467 00:19:13,659 --> 00:19:12,020 the Huffington Post and so we've kept in 468 00:19:15,490 --> 00:19:13,669 contact and I've been trying to get him 469 00:19:17,890 --> 00:19:15,500 at our conference for years he just 470 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:17,900 doesn't do conferences really and so I'm 471 00:19:24,100 --> 00:19:21,290 super excited to have him his wife Nancy 472 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:24,110 who I've never met I've talked with will 473 00:19:29,980 --> 00:19:26,000 be coming and I'm excited to meet her 474 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:29,990 and he is he's got always got some very 475 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:33,410 interesting perspectives and so I don't 476 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:35,690 have any clue what he's gonna talk about 477 00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:40,010 but I know it will be controversial and 478 00:19:44,169 --> 00:19:41,900 I'm sure people who are gonna love it 479 00:19:45,730 --> 00:19:44,179 well that's it that's the trustee put in 480 00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:45,740 someone like Bill I mean he's gonna 481 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:47,600 bring something to the table that are 482 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:49,490 gonna leave people arguing for the whole 483 00:19:54,909 --> 00:19:53,660 week and that's what we need exactly one 484 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:54,919 of the things you guys do there 485 00:19:59,500 --> 00:19:56,690 Alejandro is you bring people that we 486 00:20:01,930 --> 00:19:59,510 haven't heard from before and many 487 00:20:04,270 --> 00:20:01,940 people may have read some of his books 488 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:04,280 but he hasn't done many lectures and 489 00:20:09,820 --> 00:20:06,710 that's my my friend and colleague Robbie 490 00:20:10,690 --> 00:20:09,830 Graham who I recently did some work with 491 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:10,700 on a new book 492 00:20:16,090 --> 00:20:13,520 UFOs reframing the debate and this is 493 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:16,100 pretty cool you've got him and Bryce is 494 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:19,370 able to guys pretty well-known one in 495 00:20:25,030 --> 00:20:21,290 Hollywood and one who talks all about 496 00:20:27,850 --> 00:20:25,040 Hollywood and UFOs so that is a great 497 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:27,860 deal right there yeah so that this is a 498 00:20:33,130 --> 00:20:30,559 lot of fun Bryce table of course is he's 499 00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:33,140 a good friend he's he's a Hollywood guy 500 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:34,880 he used to be in charge of the Academy 501 00:20:41,049 --> 00:20:37,730 Awards he's making movies and TV shows 502 00:20:42,820 --> 00:20:41,059 but he's really into UFOs in fact he's 503 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:42,830 working on a Betty and Barney Hill movie 504 00:20:46,990 --> 00:20:45,049 right now and Dan Aykroyd said he's 505 00:20:49,450 --> 00:20:47,000 interested and said the script was 506 00:20:52,150 --> 00:20:49,460 amazing and is trying to help him to get 507 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:52,160 Spielberg to direct it so I don't know 508 00:20:56,409 --> 00:20:53,809 if that'll happen but this is some 509 00:20:58,990 --> 00:20:56,419 recent news that say Bryce was able to 510 00:21:01,630 --> 00:20:59,000 share with us so Bryce is gonna be great 511 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:01,640 he's high-energy last time he spoke was 512 00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:03,679 a few years ago and it's still to this 513 00:21:09,159 --> 00:21:06,230 date the best PowerPoint I've ever seen 514 00:21:11,410 --> 00:21:09,169 and I know this PowerPoint he's working 515 00:21:13,890 --> 00:21:11,420 on is really he uses the AV 516 00:21:16,300 --> 00:21:13,900 stuff in it really well and so I think 517 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:16,310 you know just for the Barrett Boyd alone 518 00:21:19,930 --> 00:21:18,290 I thought his talk last time was amazing 519 00:21:22,210 --> 00:21:19,940 so I'm I know he's going to be great 520 00:21:24,220 --> 00:21:22,220 high energy this year too we put him 521 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:24,230 right before the speaker banquet on 522 00:21:28,690 --> 00:21:26,330 Wednesday night because that way we have 523 00:21:31,210 --> 00:21:28,700 this good high energy going into it and 524 00:21:33,010 --> 00:21:31,220 then Robbie speaking of controversy 525 00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:33,020 Robby Graham wants to be very 526 00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:35,720 controversial and so this ought to be 527 00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:38,000 interesting and what the heck like you 528 00:21:42,460 --> 00:21:39,350 said controversial he's good it gets 529 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:42,470 people talking he it's kind of his first 530 00:21:49,660 --> 00:21:46,430 and last talk in ufology he says that he 531 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:49,670 might get out of UFOs altogether we'll 532 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:51,410 see if that happens people have said 533 00:21:57,580 --> 00:21:52,730 they're gonna get out and they haven't 534 00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:57,590 before Paul said that that error there 535 00:22:03,010 --> 00:22:00,080 I've said it probably dozens of times 536 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:03,020 yeah but so he's gonna be great I'm 537 00:22:07,630 --> 00:22:05,810 really excited at I I don't think he's 538 00:22:09,910 --> 00:22:07,640 the type you'll really offend people and 539 00:22:12,370 --> 00:22:09,920 it's funny because sometimes people like 540 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:12,380 him who are professional they feel like 541 00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:14,090 they're gonna be harsh but they're not 542 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:16,790 as harsh as as you know others who are 543 00:22:22,780 --> 00:22:19,310 less professional are that comes across 544 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:22,790 as just thoughtful and he is a very 545 00:22:26,980 --> 00:22:24,890 thoughtful intelligent thinker and 546 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:26,990 that's what's great about Robby so this 547 00:22:30,250 --> 00:22:28,610 is going to be exciting absolutely the 548 00:22:33,580 --> 00:22:30,260 British accent doesn't hurt either 549 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:33,590 yeah softens the blow yeah I'm really 550 00:22:37,180 --> 00:22:35,450 looking forward to me hopefully meeting 551 00:22:39,370 --> 00:22:37,190 Robby in person for the first time so 552 00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,380 that's great we've got a few more names 553 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:41,120 here before I want to get to some prime 554 00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:43,010 ones that I know both you and I 555 00:22:47,650 --> 00:22:44,750 discussed we're really looking forward 556 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:47,660 to we've got hooked on octagon from 557 00:22:52,930 --> 00:22:50,810 Turkey that's pretty awesome mm-hmm 558 00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:52,940 have you seen him talk before or 559 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:55,160 anything I've never heard him talk but 560 00:22:59,320 --> 00:22:57,170 I've read several articles pertaining to 561 00:23:01,870 --> 00:22:59,330 what he's doing which i think is amazing 562 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:01,880 again I think if this is a very Western 563 00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:04,910 phenomenon to see that these things are 564 00:23:10,030 --> 00:23:06,950 happening all over the world and being 565 00:23:12,460 --> 00:23:10,040 investigated that's extremely important 566 00:23:14,590 --> 00:23:12,470 and very exciting that's really cool 567 00:23:15,910 --> 00:23:14,600 yeah we've got dr. Bob Gross who've 568 00:23:18,010 --> 00:23:15,920 you've got who's gonna be talking about 569 00:23:22,090 --> 00:23:18,020 Kecksburg that's pretty cool he's a 570 00:23:23,860 --> 00:23:22,100 scientist you have a aerospace engineer 571 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,870 TL Keller is gonna be talking about the 572 00:23:27,670 --> 00:23:25,520 that what what the hi 573 00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:27,680 pathetical you know propulsion that 574 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:29,840 these craft might be using yeah 575 00:23:34,090 --> 00:23:31,610 essentially he's and he's gonna be 576 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:34,100 talking about could you know he's gonna 577 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:37,460 be speaking about could you know some of 578 00:23:44,230 --> 00:23:40,640 these things be top-secret military 579 00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:44,240 aircraft and or are they not and that's 580 00:23:49,750 --> 00:23:46,130 kind of what he's going to be exploring 581 00:23:52,810 --> 00:23:49,760 and if he's a an engineer an aerospace 582 00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:52,820 engineer so he's definitely the type of 583 00:23:58,330 --> 00:23:55,430 person who is qualified to speak on that 584 00:24:00,280 --> 00:23:58,340 topic I would say so for sure I mean and 585 00:24:02,230 --> 00:24:00,290 you could even connect Susy Hansen who 586 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:02,240 you have speaking as well in terms of 587 00:24:06,850 --> 00:24:04,130 alien technology she seems to be looking 588 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:06,860 at more as a a consciousness thing which 589 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:09,440 i think is pretty cool too we hear more 590 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:12,080 and more about this the past x-files 591 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:14,570 episode this new season dealt with this 592 00:24:16,990 --> 00:24:15,290 as well 593 00:24:18,850 --> 00:24:17,000 you know uploading a consciousness to 594 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:18,860 something and this is how people can 595 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:21,890 communicate and travel if their body has 596 00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:24,710 moved on these are things that are 597 00:24:28,780 --> 00:24:26,840 extremely fascinating and things we 598 00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:28,790 don't necessarily always connect to the 599 00:24:34,210 --> 00:24:31,430 UFO phenomenon so that's pretty cool too 600 00:24:35,740 --> 00:24:34,220 again getting different perspectives is 601 00:24:38,590 --> 00:24:35,750 what I think is important and what you 602 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:38,600 guys do best exactly and they are very 603 00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:40,340 different perspectives for instance 604 00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:42,230 especially these two you brought up dr. 605 00:24:46,780 --> 00:24:44,720 gross is gonna be debunking essentially 606 00:24:50,110 --> 00:24:46,790 Kecksburg but he has some very 607 00:24:52,390 --> 00:24:50,120 compelling information and he's got an 608 00:24:54,610 --> 00:24:52,400 end he's found some other interesting 609 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:54,620 things that he wants to share now he is 610 00:24:59,410 --> 00:24:56,710 a UFO investigator he believes very 611 00:25:02,350 --> 00:24:59,420 strongly that this phenomena is is a 612 00:25:04,510 --> 00:25:02,360 real deal but like the rest of us when 613 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:04,520 we investigate cases to kind of 614 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:06,050 demonstrate that they're they're 615 00:25:10,210 --> 00:25:07,910 genuinely mysterious and then we find 616 00:25:12,850 --> 00:25:10,220 out otherwise we also get excited to 617 00:25:14,260 --> 00:25:12,860 share that information so I think that 618 00:25:15,850 --> 00:25:14,270 he'll be controversial and of course 619 00:25:17,650 --> 00:25:15,860 Susy will be controversial because she's 620 00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:17,660 going to be talking about speaking with 621 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:19,910 aliens and alien abduction and stuff 622 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:22,010 like that she's all the way from New 623 00:25:25,540 --> 00:25:24,170 Zealand so it's a rare treat to people 624 00:25:28,270 --> 00:25:25,550 for people to get to meet her personally 625 00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:28,280 but she has worked with scientists such 626 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:31,400 as dr. Rudi Shield on her theory so 627 00:25:37,390 --> 00:25:35,510 she's been a careful she's tried to kind 628 00:25:38,409 --> 00:25:37,400 of bring that credibility to what she's 629 00:25:40,570 --> 00:25:38,419 doing that's great 630 00:25:43,509 --> 00:25:40,580 and I mean look he got New Zealand 631 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:43,519 Turkey England you guys are really going 632 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:45,049 international this year and I think 633 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:47,570 that's it's in the name it's there and 634 00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:50,210 I'm really excited for that I'm also 635 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:53,480 very excited about two of your speakers 636 00:26:00,190 --> 00:25:56,570 now one of them is in the film biz one 637 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:00,200 is not but this film this TV special 638 00:26:06,970 --> 00:26:04,730 scared the living was a kid I thought it 639 00:26:10,299 --> 00:26:06,980 was real and I thought it was real and 640 00:26:12,820 --> 00:26:10,309 now I'm learning that maybe it was at 641 00:26:14,979 --> 00:26:12,830 least based on a real event this is Dean 642 00:26:17,830 --> 00:26:14,989 Alioto he's gonna be talking about his 643 00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:17,840 famous alien abduction found footage 644 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:20,480 film and the conspiracy behind it how 645 00:26:24,759 --> 00:26:22,369 did you get in touch with this guy he 646 00:26:27,789 --> 00:26:24,769 got in touch with me which is a really 647 00:26:31,450 --> 00:26:27,799 cool and he said hey I'm the guy who who 648 00:26:32,979 --> 00:26:31,460 made that you know this film and I would 649 00:26:34,899 --> 00:26:32,989 like to I've never talked about it 650 00:26:36,820 --> 00:26:34,909 people are always talking to me about it 651 00:26:39,849 --> 00:26:36,830 I know there's this conspiracy theory 652 00:26:42,970 --> 00:26:39,859 that it's real and I want to clear the 653 00:26:45,159 --> 00:26:42,980 air and I've got this whole idea of how 654 00:26:47,259 --> 00:26:45,169 I want to do this and talk about it 655 00:26:49,690 --> 00:26:47,269 that'll be a lot of fun and would you be 656 00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:49,700 willing to have me do that and of course 657 00:26:56,649 --> 00:26:52,700 I was just like that's a no-brainer 658 00:27:00,729 --> 00:26:56,659 of course because I'm like you that show 659 00:27:03,249 --> 00:27:00,739 and it was found footage first-person 660 00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:03,259 like Blair which many many many years 661 00:27:08,289 --> 00:27:06,289 before the Blair Witch and it was scary 662 00:27:10,210 --> 00:27:08,299 now I didn't think it was real but I was 663 00:27:12,310 --> 00:27:10,220 kind of like is this real is it not you 664 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:12,320 know and watching it by myself at night 665 00:27:16,779 --> 00:27:14,570 I was a few years older than you so I 666 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:16,789 think I was a teenager by then and it 667 00:27:22,269 --> 00:27:20,090 was really really freaky and what but 668 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:22,279 here's you know at once it the show was 669 00:27:26,379 --> 00:27:23,450 over it 670 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:26,389 they had credits and in the credits you 671 00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:30,769 saw alien one alien to alien 3 so that 672 00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:33,710 confirmed my suspicions but there are a 673 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:36,529 lot of people I guess even at the 674 00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:39,769 Congress years before we had it there 675 00:27:44,379 --> 00:27:42,049 was a couple of people who came up and 676 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:44,389 did a whole lecture about how this 677 00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:47,090 videos real and so that's one of the 678 00:27:51,129 --> 00:27:48,769 reasons he thought it would be funny to 679 00:27:52,390 --> 00:27:51,139 come to the conference and say look guys 680 00:27:55,420 --> 00:27:52,400 this is my shoe 681 00:27:57,100 --> 00:27:55,430 project however like you said he wants 682 00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:57,110 to share that this is I didn't just make 683 00:28:01,030 --> 00:27:58,850 this up obviously it's because I'm 684 00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:01,040 interested in the topic and he's going 685 00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,130 to be sharing his uh you know his whole 686 00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:06,080 background and how this all worked in it 687 00:28:10,570 --> 00:28:08,030 and he shared some of that with me and 688 00:28:13,390 --> 00:28:10,580 it's really really interesting and I 689 00:28:15,250 --> 00:28:13,400 think it's some insight into you know in 690 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:15,260 this case a filmmaker who brought his 691 00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:17,690 passion which was his interest in UFOs 692 00:28:23,470 --> 00:28:21,260 and aliens into his work and just kind 693 00:28:27,910 --> 00:28:23,480 of the really weird situation that that 694 00:28:30,430 --> 00:28:27,920 it created I I can't wait to hear about 695 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:30,440 them and so cool as a fellow filmmaker I 696 00:28:34,900 --> 00:28:32,450 love to hear the process and when it 697 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:34,910 comes to the alien topic even more so 698 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:37,370 that's really cool sorry the last guy I 699 00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:41,120 want to focus on here Alejandro is Alan 700 00:28:46,930 --> 00:28:44,300 halt this is really cool Amy mired NASA 701 00:28:49,180 --> 00:28:46,940 project manager what is he gonna be 702 00:28:53,410 --> 00:28:49,190 talking about yeah this is really cool 703 00:28:55,810 --> 00:28:53,420 so Alan Holt has been around and you you 704 00:28:57,850 --> 00:28:55,820 know people don't know this because he's 705 00:29:00,940 --> 00:28:57,860 been kind of behind the scenes he's been 706 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:00,950 a consultant for MUFON he's worked with 707 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:03,440 a lot of the other names big names in 708 00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:05,630 this field that we would recognize but 709 00:29:08,890 --> 00:29:07,040 he's always worked in the background 710 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:08,900 because he's been working for NASA for 711 00:29:13,780 --> 00:29:11,570 decades well he's finally retired and 712 00:29:16,419 --> 00:29:13,790 again this is someone that Karen was 713 00:29:19,030 --> 00:29:16,429 friends with Karen found and he hasn't 714 00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:19,040 really wanted to come out and talk about 715 00:29:23,049 --> 00:29:21,620 his interest and his discoveries but she 716 00:29:24,669 --> 00:29:23,059 was able to talk him into it and now 717 00:29:27,070 --> 00:29:24,679 he's more willing to do it now that he's 718 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:27,080 retired so finally for the first time 719 00:29:31,060 --> 00:29:28,330 even though he's been in the background 720 00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:31,070 for a while he's going to come and share 721 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:34,910 his thoughts so really his his title of 722 00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:37,490 his talk and his description is a little 723 00:29:41,710 --> 00:29:39,320 enigmatic you know it's a little vague 724 00:29:45,790 --> 00:29:41,720 and I think that that is purposeful on 725 00:29:48,220 --> 00:29:45,800 his part but I'm very confident that his 726 00:29:50,770 --> 00:29:48,230 talk is going to be really interesting 727 00:29:53,380 --> 00:29:50,780 and I'm just hoping that and and I 728 00:29:55,690 --> 00:29:53,390 believe that he'll be continued now that 729 00:29:57,130 --> 00:29:55,700 he's retired to be more involved with 730 00:30:00,550 --> 00:29:57,140 this field and he's going to be a great 731 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:00,560 asset for us all who are doing you know 732 00:30:05,470 --> 00:30:03,050 some serious research so yeah this is 733 00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:05,480 great this is really really good at this 734 00:30:07,659 --> 00:30:06,230 is going to be 735 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:07,669 another one that's gonna be terribly 736 00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:10,490 interesting awesome again can't wait if 737 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:11,840 I can't make it to that one I would 738 00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:13,850 definitely be getting the DVD of that 739 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:17,059 one or people can go to the video portal 740 00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:19,010 and for just a few bucks you can have 741 00:30:24,430 --> 00:30:21,320 access to all those videos and past 742 00:30:26,919 --> 00:30:24,440 videos so that's including yours yes yes 743 00:30:28,690 --> 00:30:26,929 I completely forgot about that yes that 744 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:28,700 from all different years as well am I 745 00:30:33,460 --> 00:30:31,250 correct mmm-hmm you are correct yeah now 746 00:30:35,020 --> 00:30:33,470 we have I believe I mentioned her but we 747 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:35,030 have Jennifer Stein talking about crop 748 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:37,130 circles always great to hear from her 749 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:40,130 amazing documentarian and then we have 750 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,250 our two regulars we have Ben Hansen and 751 00:30:47,890 --> 00:30:45,440 Yvonne Smith Yvonne will be doing the 752 00:30:50,049 --> 00:30:47,900 experiencer sessions I assume yep you're 753 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:50,059 right yep which is always cool I've sat 754 00:30:53,650 --> 00:30:52,130 in on a few of those you know the press 755 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:53,660 is not allowed into these events it's 756 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:55,730 very personal that's where you get to 757 00:31:00,130 --> 00:30:58,010 hear people talk about their experiences 758 00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:00,140 whether it's an abduction experience a 759 00:31:04,270 --> 00:31:02,150 close encounter it's a safe place for 760 00:31:06,190 --> 00:31:04,280 people to come together and talk about 761 00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:06,200 it really cool 762 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:10,190 Yvonne's an amazing amazing person I if 763 00:31:13,450 --> 00:31:11,630 I were ever to have an abduction 764 00:31:15,970 --> 00:31:13,460 experience that is the person that would 765 00:31:18,460 --> 00:31:15,980 want to talk and then we have been heads 766 00:31:21,159 --> 00:31:18,470 and doing the night sky watch yep yep Oh 767 00:31:24,580 --> 00:31:21,169 as usual yep we always have him doing 768 00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:24,590 that and a bond and also moderates the 769 00:31:28,990 --> 00:31:26,960 abduction panel that we we host we have 770 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:29,000 one every year for the abduction 771 00:31:32,919 --> 00:31:30,650 researchers to get together and kind of 772 00:31:34,510 --> 00:31:32,929 talk and to be able to answer questions 773 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:34,520 and that kind of gets back to your other 774 00:31:38,020 --> 00:31:36,290 point about having the panel's because 775 00:31:39,220 --> 00:31:38,030 we always tell the speakers they're like 776 00:31:40,750 --> 00:31:39,230 I would like to answer some questions 777 00:31:42,820 --> 00:31:40,760 from the audience and I tell them that's 778 00:31:45,460 --> 00:31:42,830 fine but you got to put it make that 779 00:31:48,220 --> 00:31:45,470 room in your talk and they never do 780 00:31:49,930 --> 00:31:48,230 never they take up the whole time so we 781 00:31:52,690 --> 00:31:49,940 like to do the panel's because that's 782 00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:52,700 where a lot of the panels are Q&A from 783 00:31:57,159 --> 00:31:54,110 the audience so that's where they can 784 00:31:58,900 --> 00:31:57,169 ask their questions I love it I love and 785 00:32:01,570 --> 00:31:58,910 then bent awesome and of course the 786 00:32:03,370 --> 00:32:01,580 night vision stuff is so fun and of 787 00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:03,380 course if you're in the market for some 788 00:32:08,650 --> 00:32:06,260 night-vision equipment he can advise you 789 00:32:10,570 --> 00:32:08,660 and even sell it to you it's so cool and 790 00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:10,580 you get to test it too and no matter 791 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:13,820 what you are going to see something that 792 00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:14,690 is a given 793 00:32:20,029 --> 00:32:16,880 what that something might be of course 794 00:32:22,219 --> 00:32:20,039 that always remains you know 795 00:32:24,499 --> 00:32:22,229 maduk but you will see something so 796 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:24,509 definitely check that out if you can so 797 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:26,850 before we get to the big news of the 798 00:32:29,810 --> 00:32:28,289 conference alejandro i want to talk a 799 00:32:32,629 --> 00:32:29,820 little bit about the film festival now 800 00:32:36,139 --> 00:32:32,639 this is what I helped with every year I 801 00:32:38,210 --> 00:32:36,149 helped run this and it's so much fun to 802 00:32:41,210 --> 00:32:38,220 see all these amazing films about aliens 803 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:41,220 UFOs so I'd love to hear what do you got 804 00:32:44,539 --> 00:32:42,450 for us this year that you'll be 805 00:32:47,149 --> 00:32:44,549 screening at the conference we have a 806 00:32:49,549 --> 00:32:47,159 lot of films and I haven't had the time 807 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:49,559 and I out get this up hopefully tomorrow 808 00:32:55,549 --> 00:32:52,169 a list of the films that we've got for 809 00:32:58,639 --> 00:32:55,559 because we do have them finalized at UFO 810 00:33:01,549 --> 00:32:58,649 Congress calm so we've got like seven 811 00:33:04,460 --> 00:33:01,559 short films and three long-form films 812 00:33:07,219 --> 00:33:04,470 and the production value is really high 813 00:33:10,009 --> 00:33:07,229 on the film's this year about half of 814 00:33:13,369 --> 00:33:10,019 them are narratives so they are 815 00:33:14,989 --> 00:33:13,379 fictional movies but they're really 816 00:33:17,749 --> 00:33:14,999 interesting and then the other half are 817 00:33:19,669 --> 00:33:17,759 documentaries documentaries typically do 818 00:33:22,779 --> 00:33:19,679 better at the conference so we'll see 819 00:33:25,969 --> 00:33:22,789 what happens but some really interesting 820 00:33:29,539 --> 00:33:25,979 entries and I don't I think there's only 821 00:33:32,029 --> 00:33:29,549 one person in our list of films that has 822 00:33:33,859 --> 00:33:32,039 submitted a film before and that's a lot 823 00:33:35,659 --> 00:33:33,869 of fun because a lot of times we have 824 00:33:39,289 --> 00:33:35,669 the same filmmakers coming back but 825 00:33:41,779 --> 00:33:39,299 these are all new people so really good 826 00:33:45,139 --> 00:33:41,789 stuff we've got you know documentaries 827 00:33:51,349 --> 00:33:45,149 on secret space program on consciousness 828 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:51,359 and et contact on disclosure on a lot of 829 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:54,809 different things and some comedies we do 830 00:33:59,450 --> 00:33:57,090 have a couple people Joshua Warren who's 831 00:34:01,639 --> 00:33:59,460 a well-known paranormal researcher he 832 00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:01,649 submitted a short film and then also 833 00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:04,049 Oliver Marshall I don't know if you 834 00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:06,809 remember him the guy from England has he 835 00:34:13,099 --> 00:34:10,049 accent the younger guy kind of a I think 836 00:34:15,619 --> 00:34:13,109 he's bald and he would come and to the 837 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:15,629 conference's all the time and and he 838 00:34:21,049 --> 00:34:18,450 actually shot a film and finished it 839 00:34:23,629 --> 00:34:21,059 he's been working on this for years used 840 00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:23,639 to go to all the UFO conferences and so 841 00:34:26,809 --> 00:34:25,049 I'm really excited for him that he's 842 00:34:29,269 --> 00:34:26,819 finally finished this and you can tell 843 00:34:31,549 --> 00:34:29,279 he put a lot of work into it and I think 844 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:31,559 especially you as a filmmaker for a 845 00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:34,000 first film I think it's impressive 846 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:37,030 so this ought to be a lot of fun I'm 847 00:34:41,099 --> 00:34:38,889 just I always get excited to see what 848 00:34:44,490 --> 00:34:41,109 the reaction that people have to the 849 00:34:47,010 --> 00:34:44,500 films will be absolutely and again it's 850 00:34:49,619 --> 00:34:47,020 bringing new people into the field and 851 00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,629 also these films can be distributed 852 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,520 worldwide so that's just getting the 853 00:34:55,349 --> 00:34:53,200 message out even more even if it's 854 00:34:58,620 --> 00:34:55,359 fiction there's something to be gleaned 855 00:35:01,319 --> 00:34:58,630 from that always you know we live in a 856 00:35:04,410 --> 00:35:01,329 field wrought with half-truths and 857 00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:04,420 trying to decode what might be in that 858 00:35:09,059 --> 00:35:07,240 fiction so no matter what I have no 859 00:35:11,099 --> 00:35:09,069 doubt that it's going to be an awesome 860 00:35:13,260 --> 00:35:11,109 set of films and I look forward to 861 00:35:16,170 --> 00:35:13,270 seeing who gets up there with the alien 862 00:35:18,150 --> 00:35:16,180 statue this year the EBE Awards always 863 00:35:20,490 --> 00:35:18,160 love that it's like our our version of 864 00:35:23,550 --> 00:35:20,500 the Oscars right yeah and it's a lot of 865 00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:23,560 fun to award the people with them and it 866 00:35:28,170 --> 00:35:26,020 is it's gonna be fun the big news that 867 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:28,180 you dropped on us this week at your 868 00:35:34,589 --> 00:35:30,880 website the open minds TV was that and 869 00:35:37,530 --> 00:35:34,599 UFO Congress calm is you got the one and 870 00:35:39,630 --> 00:35:37,540 only man responsible for this I mean not 871 00:35:43,230 --> 00:35:39,640 the only one but definitely the man 872 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:43,240 behind the Pentagon secret UFO program 873 00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:46,270 tell us how this happened yeah this is 874 00:35:51,089 --> 00:35:49,150 definitely the man of the hour so I 875 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:51,099 can't reveal all of the way that I 876 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:52,930 received and that's what's funny about 877 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:54,910 all of this so for instance I just 878 00:35:58,740 --> 00:35:56,530 interviewed Leslie came for my podcast 879 00:36:00,720 --> 00:35:58,750 there's a lot that she can't share 880 00:36:02,670 --> 00:36:00,730 there's certain things that Louise can't 881 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:02,680 share I've been talking with Tom DeLonge 882 00:36:06,809 --> 00:36:04,690 there are certain things he can't share 883 00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:06,819 but really luckily I've been talking 884 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:09,609 with Tom and it's kind of through that 885 00:36:15,210 --> 00:36:12,400 relationship and through some sleuthing 886 00:36:18,510 --> 00:36:15,220 on my own that I was able to get a hold 887 00:36:19,859 --> 00:36:18,520 of him but what was really cool was you 888 00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:19,869 know I asked him if he would want to be 889 00:36:24,990 --> 00:36:21,760 involved with the conference and it was 890 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:25,000 a no-brainer for him he was so excited 891 00:36:30,839 --> 00:36:28,450 he wanted people to know that people 892 00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:30,849 that research UFOs are and are into this 893 00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:33,550 topic were an inspiration to him that 894 00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:35,880 they could sacrifice or you know 895 00:36:40,980 --> 00:36:38,500 jeopardize their reputation and their 896 00:36:43,349 --> 00:36:40,990 relationships to be into this field and 897 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:43,359 to investigate it and he says that 898 00:36:47,670 --> 00:36:46,690 inspired him to bring you know what he's 899 00:36:49,859 --> 00:36:47,680 brought to the public 900 00:36:51,990 --> 00:36:49,869 this this whole revelation that the 901 00:36:54,089 --> 00:36:52,000 Department of Defense has been taking 902 00:36:58,319 --> 00:36:54,099 UFO seriously in researching him for 903 00:37:02,190 --> 00:36:58,329 years and so he is a very very humble 904 00:37:04,049 --> 00:37:02,200 person he is just really cool so he was 905 00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:04,059 very excited to speak with the 906 00:37:08,549 --> 00:37:05,440 conference there have been some 907 00:37:11,250 --> 00:37:08,559 gatekeepers in place and so it was great 908 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:11,260 when we could finally connect because he 909 00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:14,290 had told me that he had expressed to 910 00:37:17,579 --> 00:37:16,089 people that he wanted to be involved 911 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:17,589 with the conference because I've been 912 00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:19,450 talking to Tommy and some of his people 913 00:37:23,609 --> 00:37:21,790 for a while now and I've been told and 914 00:37:25,530 --> 00:37:23,619 that's why we've kept the Saturday open 915 00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:25,540 I they keep telling me yeah well we want 916 00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:27,040 to do something we haven't figured out 917 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:28,990 what and they keep telling me that and 918 00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:30,550 telling me that and of course the New 919 00:37:34,799 --> 00:37:32,470 York Times story blew up probably bigger 920 00:37:37,140 --> 00:37:34,809 than even they expected so they have 921 00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:37,150 been really busy so luckily we were able 922 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:40,720 to arrange us now unfortunately he was 923 00:37:44,730 --> 00:37:42,490 planning on being there in person 924 00:37:46,230 --> 00:37:44,740 because he wanted to answer questions 925 00:37:48,450 --> 00:37:46,240 from the audience and he's like I don't 926 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:48,460 want you know nothing held back I want 927 00:37:52,289 --> 00:37:50,710 everyone to answer ask any question he's 928 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:52,299 like I know there's people with Fringe 929 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:54,490 ideas but we don't know that they're not 930 00:37:58,349 --> 00:37:56,770 right he's like I don't know that just 931 00:38:00,660 --> 00:37:58,359 because they're talking about wild 932 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:00,670 things what I know is what I know and I 933 00:38:04,349 --> 00:38:02,290 can share that but I don't know that 934 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:04,359 these people are all wrong I'm open to 935 00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:06,250 the possibility that some of these 936 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:08,380 people the most crazy idea could be the 937 00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:10,089 one that that we discover is the truth 938 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:11,740 so he's very open to all of the 939 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:13,450 different ideas people have but 940 00:38:18,089 --> 00:38:15,690 unfortunately a personal situation 941 00:38:19,799 --> 00:38:18,099 caused him to change his schedule and 942 00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:19,809 there's something he just cannot miss 943 00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:22,089 during the weekend of the conference so 944 00:38:27,510 --> 00:38:25,270 he has said no problem we can get 945 00:38:29,940 --> 00:38:27,520 together and film an interview with him 946 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:29,950 with questions that we get from the 947 00:38:34,049 --> 00:38:31,960 public and so people can send their 948 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:34,059 questions to Alejandro at UFO 949 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:35,170 congress.com 950 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,930 and we'll be able to answer the 951 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:39,520 questions and the other thing is you 952 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:41,410 know luckily I have some relationship 953 00:38:45,150 --> 00:38:42,460 with some of the people in the group 954 00:38:47,250 --> 00:38:45,160 like Lesley Kane and Tom who can vouch 955 00:38:49,620 --> 00:38:47,260 for us and say hey you know these guys 956 00:38:51,990 --> 00:38:49,630 are pretty cool so that helped that's 957 00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:52,000 incredible man the opportunity to ask 958 00:38:58,490 --> 00:38:55,839 the head of this program what he did 959 00:39:00,930 --> 00:38:58,500 what he thinks is going on and what 960 00:39:01,270 --> 00:39:00,940 possibly they discovered in their time 961 00:39:04,090 --> 00:39:01,280 and 962 00:39:05,590 --> 00:39:04,100 - getting it that's a rarity so everyone 963 00:39:07,050 --> 00:39:05,600 I urge you to send your questions to 964 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:07,060 Alejandro 965 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:14,210 are probably like how the hell do I 966 00:39:22,060 --> 00:39:19,010 spell that it's al e J a and D are o at 967 00:39:23,980 --> 00:39:22,070 UFO Congress calm and most likely many 968 00:39:26,230 --> 00:39:23,990 of you have been like me you've watched 969 00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:26,240 these media interviews but they're not 970 00:39:30,130 --> 00:39:28,250 versed in this field they're not asking 971 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:30,140 all the questions they're not asking the 972 00:39:34,990 --> 00:39:31,970 right questions you know they're only 973 00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:35,000 asking three or four and and and half of 974 00:39:40,450 --> 00:39:37,550 those are just off-topic or in the in 975 00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:40,460 the wrong direction I feel so finally 976 00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:42,200 we're going to be able to ask him the 977 00:39:47,170 --> 00:39:44,510 questions we all want to ask and I told 978 00:39:50,020 --> 00:39:47,180 him you know I want to ask questions 979 00:39:51,820 --> 00:39:50,030 that are that may be difficult but what 980 00:39:53,710 --> 00:39:51,830 I really but people are looking for a 981 00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:53,720 night and I tell people often I'm not 982 00:39:57,850 --> 00:39:55,910 doing this in the spirit just to get out 983 00:40:00,130 --> 00:39:57,860 yet but to make sure that you know 984 00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:00,140 you're we get the answers to the tough 985 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:01,430 questions out there and he's like are 986 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:03,170 you kidding he's like you asked me 987 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:06,050 whatever no problem some things I won't 988 00:40:10,660 --> 00:40:08,330 be able to get into and I'll tell you 989 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:10,670 that but yeah ask me whatever you need 990 00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:13,250 to ask and so this ought to be great 991 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:14,480 that's awesome 992 00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:16,850 and we have to remember that the reason 993 00:40:22,060 --> 00:40:19,340 we select the program is because of the 994 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:22,070 secrecy behind it so you know the fact 995 00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:23,930 that he has brought this forward means 996 00:40:29,050 --> 00:40:26,420 he wants to talk about it as truthful as 997 00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:29,060 possible so I think that's amazing 998 00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:31,150 hopefully this will be a springboard as 999 00:40:35,950 --> 00:40:34,310 Tom and to the stars continue to do what 1000 00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:35,960 they're doing for all the flack we've 1001 00:40:41,770 --> 00:40:38,510 given DeLong throughout all of this you 1002 00:40:44,950 --> 00:40:41,780 know the guy is producing so we have he 1003 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:44,960 really isn't yeah he really is and I've 1004 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:48,290 gotten so much crap this year for making 1005 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:50,450 him giving him that award a year ago 1006 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:52,850 researcher of the year although I have 1007 00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:55,490 not second-guessed that at all for me 1008 00:40:59,440 --> 00:40:57,440 it's still a no-brainer that he received 1009 00:41:02,860 --> 00:40:59,450 that award for the reasons we outlined 1010 00:41:04,780 --> 00:41:02,870 in that video for the award and luckily 1011 00:41:06,370 --> 00:41:04,790 it's there's been a lot of validation 1012 00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,380 because I've had a lot of people come to 1013 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:08,480 me and say okay we gave you a lot of 1014 00:41:13,810 --> 00:41:10,730 crap about too long but he did come 1015 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:13,820 through and and so that's that's been 1016 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:14,970 nice he 1017 00:41:20,270 --> 00:41:17,250 and it's only beginning from what he's 1018 00:41:21,140 --> 00:41:20,280 telling us so I'll see yeah yeah 1019 00:41:23,150 --> 00:41:21,150 absolutely 1020 00:41:25,370 --> 00:41:23,160 oh my gosh man I am like 1021 00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:25,380 hyperventilating that all the sample you 1022 00:41:30,319 --> 00:41:27,990 got this year whoo you really what you 1023 00:41:33,170 --> 00:41:30,329 really hit it out of the park I I'm 1024 00:41:35,540 --> 00:41:33,180 excited to see what comes of this give 1025 00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,550 us the information on where we can get 1026 00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:38,160 tickets and when this is happening once 1027 00:41:43,849 --> 00:41:40,710 more if you will yeah no problem so you 1028 00:41:45,589 --> 00:41:43,859 can go to UFO Congress calm to get 1029 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:45,599 ticket and you'll want to go there as 1030 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:49,530 soon as possible because the rates will 1031 00:41:55,099 --> 00:41:52,530 go up in just a couple of weeks so after 1032 00:41:57,530 --> 00:41:55,109 January 27th the rates will go up so in 1033 00:41:59,750 --> 00:41:57,540 order to get a major discount go get 1034 00:42:03,589 --> 00:41:59,760 your tickets right now at UFO Congress 1035 00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:03,599 calm before January 27th so it's gonna 1036 00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:06,329 be a lot of fun and just so people know 1037 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:09,480 we have a host of hotels around because 1038 00:42:13,370 --> 00:42:11,250 really our conference is kind of like a 1039 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:13,380 comic-con or something you know we fill 1040 00:42:18,589 --> 00:42:16,290 up the host hotel before we even list 1041 00:42:20,750 --> 00:42:18,599 the speakers so and this year they 1042 00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:20,760 filled up in August but luckily there's 1043 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:23,849 a number of hotels around and were able 1044 00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:25,530 to work with many of them to get 1045 00:42:30,740 --> 00:42:28,260 discounts so some of the room rates are 1046 00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:30,750 really low in fact some of the room 1047 00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:33,020 rates you can get to low room rate 1048 00:42:38,750 --> 00:42:36,089 rent-a-car for just a few bucks a day 1049 00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:38,760 and you'll come out ahead you'll you'll 1050 00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:40,950 save and you'll be able to have a car so 1051 00:42:44,809 --> 00:42:42,780 you could go places if you need to still 1052 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:44,819 very affordable and great places around 1053 00:42:49,490 --> 00:42:47,010 that people can stay at and you can go a 1054 00:42:51,470 --> 00:42:49,500 little lodging page to see that perfect 1055 00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:51,480 and that's at UFO Congress calm guys 1056 00:42:56,839 --> 00:42:54,510 make the trip I flew from New York City 1057 00:42:59,809 --> 00:42:56,849 every year to do this you could do it 1058 00:43:01,490 --> 00:42:59,819 it's amazing it's worth the week take a 1059 00:43:03,650 --> 00:43:01,500 vacation do it 1060 00:43:05,420 --> 00:43:03,660 learn something like I cannot speak 1061 00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:05,430 enough praise for what you guys are 1062 00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:06,750 doing over there alejandro 1063 00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:08,700 i look forward to seeing you hopefully 1064 00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:10,920 in a few weeks and best of luck with 1065 00:43:15,620 --> 00:43:13,680 everything my man thank you so much for 1066 00:43:17,329 --> 00:43:15,630 coming on to talk about this today thank 1067 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,339 you thank you for having me and I look 1068 00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:19,920 forward very forward as usual to seeing